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-The c3voc currently has six lecture room case sets which contain everything that's needed to stream and record lectures in some kind of venue.+The c3voc has [[hardware:cases|six lecture room case sets]] which contain everything that's needed to stream and record lectures in some kind of venue.
 The venue only needs to provide a projector and some kind of speakers / PA besides power and internet access. The venue only needs to provide a projector and some kind of speakers / PA besides power and internet access.
  
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 We need to be prepared for different ways to connect our setup to the lecture hall (PA and projector), but most of the items are always connected in the same way. We need to be prepared for different ways to connect our setup to the lecture hall (PA and projector), but most of the items are always connected in the same way.
  
-Shopping list: https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA+The result is documented in [[hardware:room-case-2.0]] and below: 
 + 
 + 
 +{{url>https://media.ccc.de/v/gpn23-82-voc-case-2-0-modularize-everything/oembed 1024,576 allowfullscreen}} 
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 +Shopping list: https://cloud.cccv.de/apps/files/files/440945?dir=/crew_c3voc/case_2.0&openfile=true 
  
 ==== Goals ==== ==== Goals ====
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   * **May 2024**: Prototypes were build   * **May 2024**: Prototypes were build
   * **Juni 2024** (GPN): Prototypes will be tested at GPN Karlsruhe   * **Juni 2024** (GPN): Prototypes will be tested at GPN Karlsruhe
 +  * **March 2025**: Finalize BoM at a Geekend
  
  
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     * 2 rack unit module     * 2 rack unit module
     * 1 drawer     * 1 drawer
 +    * 1 rack shelf (to mount switch and power supply)
   * Devices:   * Devices:
     * ATEM Mini (buttons shall be accessible)     * ATEM Mini (buttons shall be accessible)
     * Network switch (8 ports, no PoE required)     * Network switch (8 ports, no PoE required)
-      * 2 ports trunk for module interconnect+      * 2 ports trunk for module interconnect (1 spare)
       * 2 ports internal for Infobeamer and ATEM Mini       * 2 ports internal for Infobeamer and ATEM Mini
       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for speaker laptop/ debugging)       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for speaker laptop/ debugging)
-      * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging) +      * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for spare)
-    * <del>Stereo DI Box</del> (use 3.5 mm cable to ATEM Mini)+
     * HDMI Splitter     * HDMI Splitter
     * BMD Up Down Cross     * BMD Up Down Cross
     * Infobeamer Pi     * Infobeamer Pi
-    * <del>(passive adapter from Ethercon to 2x XLR in + 2x XLR out)</del> +    * Common power supplies for the devices (12V and 5V) 
-    * Common power supplies for the deviced (12V and 5V) +  * I/O-Panel (12 ports, at the front side)
-  * I/O-Panel (16 ports, TBD all at the front side)+
     * 2x Cinch for speaker laptop (could also be 1x 6.3 mm jack)     * 2x Cinch for speaker laptop (could also be 1x 6.3 mm jack)
     * 3x HDMI in to ATEM Mini     * 3x HDMI in to ATEM Mini
     * 1x HDMI out to projector     * 1x HDMI out to projector
     * 1x SDI out to encoder (from BMD Up Down Cross)     * 1x SDI out to encoder (from BMD Up Down Cross)
-    * 1x HDMI out (other output from BMD Up Down Cross) 
-    * <del>2x XLR out to projector</del> 
-    * <del>1x Ethercon for module audio interconnect</del> (obsolete b/c laptop audio is embedded in HDMI/SDI) 
     * 1x PowerCON in     * 1x PowerCON in
-    * 1x PowerCON out +    * 4x Ethernet RJ45
-    * 6x Ethernet RJ45+
   * Internal connections:   * Internal connections:
-    * TODOcable lengths+    * from drawer to front panel1.2m 
 +      * 4x HDMI (3x Atem Input, 1x Projector) 
 +      * 1x SDI 
 +      * 1x 3.5 mm jack to Cinch 
 +    * from switch to front panel: 0.75m to 1m 
 +      * 4x Ethernet
   * Additionally:   * Additionally:
     * Meshbag with speaker adapters (all to HDMI socket): USB-C, USB-C multiport, DisplayPort, Mini-DP, mini-HDMI, micro-HDMI, VGA, DVI     * Meshbag with speaker adapters (all to HDMI socket): USB-C, USB-C multiport, DisplayPort, Mini-DP, mini-HDMI, micro-HDMI, VGA, DVI
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 === Goals === === Goals ===
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   * Case:   * Case:
     * 3 rack units on front     * 3 rack units on front
-    * enough space for audio mixer +    * 2.5 rack units for audio mixer (1 above mounting level, 1.5 below) 
-    * (about 5-6 units high)+    * -rack unit module rack
   * Devices:   * Devices:
-    * Audio mixer Allen&Heath CQ-12 +    * Audio mixer Allen&Heath CQ-18T 
-    * Router (Hardware TBD)+    * Router (as part of the Mikrotik Switch)
     * SDI Audio De-Embedder     * SDI Audio De-Embedder
-    * Network switch (14 ports, 4 of them with PoE)+    * Network switch(es) (14 ports, 4 of them with PoE)
       * 2 ports trunk for module interconnect       * 2 ports trunk for module interconnect
       * 1 port internal for router (VLAN trunk)       * 1 port internal for router (VLAN trunk)
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       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)
       * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)       * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)
-    * <del>"Rack-mounted" battery charger for wireless microphones</del> (now in separate euro crate) +  * I/O-Panel top-side (ports, 6 used
-  * I/O-Panel top-side (2-10 ports) +    * 2 BNC-connectors for receiver antennas 
-    * 2-4 BNC-connectors for receiver antennas +    * 2x XLR out with n-1 mix 
-    * (if not well accessible: Headphone jack from audio-mixer) +    * 2x XLR out (spare aux ports) 
-    * (if not well accessible: USB port of audio-mixer) +  * Brush-Panel top-side + 1 blank panel 
-    * optional: 2x XLR out with n-1 mix +  * I/O-Panel back-side (ports, 5 used)
-    * optional: 2x XLR in for remote speakers +
-  * optional: I/O-Panel back-side (16 ports)+
     * 1x PowerCON in     * 1x PowerCON in
-    * 1x PowerCON out+    * 1x PowerCON out (additional hole)
     * 2x SDI (audio de-embedder)     * 2x SDI (audio de-embedder)
-    * 12x ethernet RJ45 
-  * optional: XLR I/O-Panel back-side (5 ports) 
-    * 2x XLR out with hall mix 
     * 2x XLR out with recording mix     * 2x XLR out with recording mix
-    * 1x XLR out with translation mix 
   * 3x CEE 7/3 (Schuko) sockets externally accessible (for mixer laptop, camera, battery charger)   * 3x CEE 7/3 (Schuko) sockets externally accessible (for mixer laptop, camera, battery charger)
   * Internal connections:   * Internal connections:
-    * TODO+    * 4x 1m XLR (f) to angled XLR (m) (receiver to mxier) 
 +    * 6x 1m angled 6.3mm jack to soldered XLR D-norm jack (aux output) 
 +    * 2x 1m SDI (audio de-embedder) 
 +    * 2x 0.75m Ethernet (switch to audio mixer and wireless receiver)
  
 ==== Encoder Module ==== ==== Encoder Module ====
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   * Devices:   * Devices:
     * Encoder PC with 4 SDI inputs and 1 HDMI output for local playout     * Encoder PC with 4 SDI inputs and 1 HDMI output for local playout
-  * I/O-Panel front-side (10 ports)+  * <del>I/O-Panel front-side (10 ports)</del>
     * 4x SDI in     * 4x SDI in
     * 1x HDMI socket     * 1x HDMI socket
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     * 1x PowerCON in     * 1x PowerCON in
     * 1x PowerCON out     * 1x PowerCON out
-  * Internal connections:+  * <del>Internal connections:</del>
     * 4x SDI patch     * 4x SDI patch
     * 1x HDMI patch     * 1x HDMI patch
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-==== Goals/ Design ====+=== Goals/ Design ===
  
   * Enough space and foam cutouts for:   * Enough space and foam cutouts for:
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     * 2 beltbacks     * 2 beltbacks
     * 2 headsets     * 2 headsets
-    * 1 lavalier (TODO: really?) 
     * TODO: Batteries?     * TODO: Batteries?
   * Cases:   * Cases:
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 {{gallery>:projects:case2?box-cam*&showcaption&showtitle}} {{gallery>:projects:case2?box-cam*&showcaption&showtitle}}
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 === Goals/ Design === === Goals/ Design ===
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     * At least 1 tally light     * At least 1 tally light
     * 4 SD cards     * 4 SD cards
-    * 3-port power strip? +    * 3-port power strip? -> no, put to other power cables
-    * (optionally: Intercom belt pack with headset)+
   * Containment: Top-loaded box/ crate   * Containment: Top-loaded box/ crate
  
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 ==== Mixer Laptop Box ==== ==== Mixer Laptop Box ====
 +
 +  * Cases:
 +    * 1x 40x30x12 with lid:
 +  * Devices:
 +    * Mixer laptop with power supply
 +    * Mouse
  
 {{gallery>:projects:case2?box-laptop*&lightbox&showcaption&showtitle}}  {{gallery>:projects:case2?box-laptop*&lightbox&showcaption&showtitle}} 
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   * Cases:   * Cases:
-    * 1x 30x20x12: Audio Embedder+    * 1x 30x20x12: Audio Embedder + BiDi
     * 1x 30x20x12: DI-Box, etc (ex Audio kurz)     * 1x 30x20x12: DI-Box, etc (ex Audio kurz)
-    * 1x 30x20x12: DT770 headphones +    * 1x 30x20x12: Winkekatze + Battery Charger 
-    * 1x 30x20x12: Minion+    * 1x 30x20x12: Tally-Light(s)
     * 1x 30x20x17: Tape     * 1x 30x20x17: Tape
     * 1x 30x20x17: Ethernet short (3m and 5m)     * 1x 30x20x17: Ethernet short (3m and 5m)
-    * 1x 40x30x12Mixer laptop with power supply and mouse+    * 1x 40x30x07Minion 
 +    * 1x 40x30x17: Intercom 
 +    * 1x 40x30x07: Office (Switch, TBD)
     * 1x Sortimentskasten: Stuff from "Meshbag Audio/ BNC Adapter"     * 1x Sortimentskasten: Stuff from "Meshbag Audio/ BNC Adapter"
-    * optional "Regie-Box" (SIP phone, additional power strips and a 16 port switch)+    * TODO: 1x 30x20x12: DT770 headphones
  
  
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       * length: 2m       * length: 2m
     * power for everything     * power for everything
-      * Schuko to Powercon (Lectern, Audio, Encoder) +      * 3x 2m Schuko to Powercon (Lectern, Audio/FOHspare
-        * 3x 2m +      * 2x 0,5-1m Powercon to Schuko (z.B. um Encoder an FOH anzuschließen oder Speaker-Strom am Lectern
-        * 3x 10m +      * 2x 10m Schuko-Verlängerung 
-      * 1x Powercon blau auf grau (to daisy-chain mixer to the audio module+      * 2x Steckdosenleiste 6-er (spare) 
-      * 1x 10m Schuko-Verlängerung +      * 2x Steckdosenleiste 3-er (Kamera, Spare)
-      * 1x Steckdosenleiste 3-er (Kamera), TBD mit Powercon oder Schuko?+
     * ethernet misc     * ethernet misc
       * 1x uplink (+ 20m worst-case?)       * 1x uplink (+ 20m worst-case?)
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       * length: 3m       * length: 3m
     * misc     * misc
-      * 1x SDI 2m spare+      * 3x SDI 2m spare
       * 2x XLR 10m spare       * 2x XLR 10m spare
   * (sorted by type and length, ranges include are min to spare)   * (sorted by type and length, ranges include are min to spare)
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       * 1x 20m       * 1x 20m
       * 2x 10m       * 2x 10m
-      * 2x 2m+      * 4x 2m
     * XLR     * XLR
       * 2-4x 20m       * 2-4x 20m
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       * 2x 10m       * 2x 10m
       * 4x 3m       * 4x 3m
 +    * Power
 +      * 3x 2m Schuko to Powercon (Lectern, Audio/FOH, spare)
 +      * 1x 2m Powercon to C13 (um Encoder an FOH anzuschließen)
 +      * 2x 10m Schuko-Verlängerung
 +      * 2x Steckdosenleiste 6-er (spare)
 +      * 2x Steckdosenleiste 3-er (Kamera, Spare)
     * Audio misc:     * Audio misc:
       * 1x 3.5mm-Jack to 2x Cinch 3m (lectern module)       * 1x 3.5mm-Jack to 2x Cinch 3m (lectern module)
-  * Containment: TODO+  * Containment: Case compartment
  
 === To Be Sorted === === To Be Sorted ===
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     * 1 inch sensor     * 1 inch sensor
     * 20x Zoom f2.8-4.5 / 8.8-176mm (24.5-490mm KB)     * 20x Zoom f2.8-4.5 / 8.8-176mm (24.5-490mm KB)
 +    * F13 / 2000Lx
     * BxHxT 180 x 173 x 311mm     * BxHxT 180 x 173 x 311mm
     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI
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     * 1"-Sensor     * 1"-Sensor
     * 20x Zoom f2.8-4.5 / 9.43-188.6mm (28mm-560mm KB)     * 20x Zoom f2.8-4.5 / 9.43-188.6mm (28mm-560mm KB)
 +    * F12 / 2000Lx
     * BxHxT 195 x 230 x 445mm     * BxHxT 195 x 230 x 445mm
     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI
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     * 1"-Sensor     * 1"-Sensor
     * 15x Zoom f2.8-4.5/ 8.3-124.5mm (25,5-382.5mm KB)     * 15x Zoom f2.8-4.5/ 8.3-124.5mm (25,5-382.5mm KB)
 +    * F?? / 2000Lx
     * BxHxT 140 x 216 x 265mm     * BxHxT 140 x 216 x 265mm
     * 3G SDI + Mini HDMI     * 3G SDI + Mini HDMI
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     * 1/3"-Sensor     * 1/3"-Sensor
     * 25x Zoom f1.6-?(?) / 3.7-92.5mm (28.8-720mm KB)     * 25x Zoom f1.6-?(?) / 3.7-92.5mm (28.8-720mm KB)
 +    * F12 / 2000Lx
     * BxHxT 190 x 202 x 420mm     * BxHxT 190 x 202 x 420mm
     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI     * 3G SDI + Full-Size HDMI
 +    * <color #ed1c24>Sony Kamera ist EOL! Nachfolger: PXW-Z200</color>
 +  * Sony PXW-Z200 (3750 w/o VAT Listprice) https://pro.sony/de_DE/products/handheld-camcorders/pxw-z200#ProductSpecificationsBlock-pxw-z200
 +    * 1"-Sensor
 +    * 20x Zoom F2.8-F4.5 / 7.71-154.21 mm (24-480 mm KB)
 +    * F12 bei 2000LX
 +    * BxHxT 176 x 202 x 372mm
 +    * HD-SDI to 12G-SDI + Full-Size HDMI
 +
 +Remote Control Zoom/Focus
 +
 + * Manfrotto MVR901EPLA (~335 w/o VAT) [[https://www.manfrotto.com/de-de/fernbedienung-lanc-sony-canon-mvr901epla/]]
 +   * Zoom and Focus
 +   * Support for Canon, JVC, Sony, Panasonic [[https://cdn.manfrotto.com/media/downloadable/manual/Compatibility-Chart_Manfrotto_Camcorder_April_23.cleaned.pdf]]
 +   * REC-Button
 + * Manfrotto MVR901ECPL (~200 w/o VAT) [[https://www.manfrotto.com/de-de/fernbedienung-sony-canon-und-panasonic-mvr901ecpl/]]
 +   * only Zoom
 +   * Support for Canon, JVC, Sony, Panasonic [[https://cdn.manfrotto.com/media/downloadable/manual/Compatibility-Chart_Manfrotto_Camcorder_April_23.cleaned.pdf]]
 +   * REC-Button
 + * FOTGA NJ721 (~50$) [[https://www.fotga.com/product/fotga-wired-camcorder-lanc-remote-controller-iris-zoom-video-rec-start-stop-control-for-sony-pxw-z90-z100-z150-z190-z1c-z5c-z7c-fs5-fs7-fs7m2-fs7h-fs700-fx6-fx9-a1c-for-panasonic-cx200m-hc-x1500gk/]]
 +   * Zoom and Focus
 +   * No Compatibilty List, should work with Sony and Panasonic (test necessary)
 +   * REC-Button
 +
  
 === Broadcast Cameras === === Broadcast Cameras ===
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 Shure: Shure:
   * SLX-D   * SLX-D
-    * only single- or dual-channel receivers available+    * with dual-channel receivers
       * 1x SLXD24DE/SM58 (dual channel with 2x SM58): 1629€ MSRP       * 1x SLXD24DE/SM58 (dual channel with 2x SM58): 1629€ MSRP
       * 1x SLXD14DE (dual channel with 2x belt pack): 1599€ MSRP       * 1x SLXD14DE (dual channel with 2x belt pack): 1599€ MSRP
       * 1x t.bone splitter: 185€       * 1x t.bone splitter: 185€
       * Total 3413€ (without splitter)       * Total 3413€ (without splitter)
 +    * with quad-channel receiver
 +      * 1x Shure SLXD4Q+E (quad channel, without Dante): 2685€
 +      * 2x Shure SLXD2/Beta87A (handheld) 469€
 +      * 2x Shure SLXD1 (beltpack) 265€
 +      * Total 4153€
     * no encryption     * no encryption
     * 32 simultaneous transmitters     * 32 simultaneous transmitters
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