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projects:case_2.0 [2023/11/19 17:35] – Ergebnisse aus Pad übernommen jtbxprojects:case_2.0 [2024/03/30 13:56] (current) – sophie
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   * Encoder Module:   * Encoder Module:
     * Can either be placed on stage or at FOH     * Can either be placed on stage or at FOH
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 +These modules are like the modules offered by ProCase, see their catalogue: https://www.procase.de/fileadmin/media/_kataloge/19-Zoll-Racks_DE.pdf
  
 Additional crates are needed to store: Additional crates are needed to store:
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       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for speaker laptop/ debugging)       * 2 ports public LAN (1 "input", 1 for speaker laptop/ debugging)
       * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)       * 2 ports VOC LAN (1 "input", 1 for debugging)
-    * Stereo DI Box+    * <del>Stereo DI Box</del> (use 3.5 mm cable to ATEM Mini)
     * HDMI Splitter     * HDMI Splitter
     * BMD Up Down Cross     * BMD Up Down Cross
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     * (passive adapter from Ethercon to 2x XLR in + 2x XLR out)     * (passive adapter from Ethercon to 2x XLR in + 2x XLR out)
     * Common power supplies for the deviced (probably 12V and 5V)     * Common power supplies for the deviced (probably 12V and 5V)
-  * I/O-Panel (11 ports, all at the front side)+  * I/O-Panel (12 ports, all at the front side)
     * 2x Cinch for speaker laptop     * 2x Cinch for speaker laptop
     * 3x HDMI in to ATEM Mini     * 3x HDMI in to ATEM Mini
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     * 1x HDMI out (other output from BMD Up Down Cross)     * 1x HDMI out (other output from BMD Up Down Cross)
     * 2x XLR out to projector     * 2x XLR out to projector
-    * 1x Ethercon for module audio interconnect+    * <del>1x Ethercon for module audio interconnect</del> (obsolete b/c laptop audio is embedded in HDMI/SDI)
     * 1x PowerCON in     * 1x PowerCON in
     * 1x PowerCON out     * 1x PowerCON out
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     * 3.5mm-Jack to 2x Cinch 2m     * 3.5mm-Jack to 2x Cinch 2m
     * (Cables to hall are listed separately)     * (Cables to hall are listed separately)
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-To be discussed: 
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-  * Feed 3.5 mm audio jack to ATEM Mini and de-embed audio from SDI at encoder? 
-    * Would remove the need for a DI box 
-    * Would enable using HDMI audio (as it's done by default on many laptops) 
  
 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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     * (if not well accessible: Headphone jack from audio- mixer)     * (if not well accessible: Headphone jack from audio- mixer)
     * (if not well accessible: USB port of audio- mixer)     * (if not well accessible: USB port of audio- mixer)
-  * I/O-Panel front-side (8 ports) +  * I/O-Panel front-side (11 ports) 
-    * 2x XLR with recording mix +    * 2x XLR out with recording mix 
-    * 2x XLR with n-1 mix +    * 2x XLR out with n-1 mix 
-    * 1x XLR with translation mix +    * 2x XLR in for remote speakers 
-    * 1x Ethercon for module audio interconnect+    * 1x XLR out with translation mix 
 +    * 2x XLR out with hall mix (to stage module)
     * 1x PowerCON in     * 1x PowerCON in
     * 1x PowerCON out     * 1x PowerCON out
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 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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   * Devices:   * Devices:
     * Encoder PC with 4 SDI inputs and 1 HDMI output for local playout     * Encoder PC with 4 SDI inputs and 1 HDMI output for local playout
-  * I/O-Panel front-side (8 ports) +    * SDI Audio De-Embedder 
-    * 4x SDI+  * I/O-Panel front-side (10 ports) 
 +    * 4x SDI in 
 +    * 2x XLR out (audio from ATEM mini)
     * 1x HDMI socket     * 1x HDMI socket
     * 1x Ethernet     * 1x Ethernet
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 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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 === Shopping List === === Shopping List ===
  
-TODO+See https://pad.c3voc.de/kYrLGch_QRm83ZmFpQT8wA
  
  
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   * Cables sorted by place   * Cables sorted by place
     * lectern module <-> FOH     * lectern module <-> FOH
-      * 2x ethernet+      * 1x ethernet 
 +      * 2x XLR (from FOH to stage) 
 +      * (optional/spare: 2x XLR (from encoder to audio mixer), if encoder is on stage)
       * 1x SDI       * 1x SDI
       * length: 20m + 10m       * length: 20m + 10m
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       * 2x 5m       * 2x 5m
     * XLR     * XLR
-      * 2x 20m +      * 4-6x 20m 
-      * 2x 10m+      * 4-6x 10m
       * 4-6x 5m       * 4-6x 5m
     * HDMI     * HDMI
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   * Ideally a quad-channel receiver, dual-channel also fine   * Ideally a quad-channel receiver, dual-channel also fine
   * digital transmission   * digital transmission
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 +Comparisons based upon 4 channel receiver(s), 2 handsets and 1 headset and antenna splitter where necessary. Per brand similar hand/headset/capsule etc.
  
 Sennheiser (prices are MSRP incl. VAT): Sennheiser (prices are MSRP incl. VAT):
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     * 149 simultaneous transmitters     * 149 simultaneous transmitters
     * 2x AA battery or proprietary battery pack     * 2x AA battery or proprietary battery pack
 +    * Comparison dual channel receiver
 +      * 1x Receiver + 2 handhelds https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_835_s_set_r1_9.htm €2199
 +      * 1x 2 channel receiver https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_em_2_r1_9.htm €1049
 +      * 1x Beltpack https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_sk_r1_9.htm €469
 +      * 1x Headset https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_me3_ii.htm €145
 +      * EW-D ASA Splitter €649
 +      * Total €4511
 +      * 2HE
 +    * Comparison quad channel receiver
 +      * Receiver https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_em_4_dante_q1_9.htm €3098
 +      * 2x Handheld transmitter https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_skm_s2_10.htm €459
 +      * 2x Capsule https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_mmd_835_1_bk.htm €95
 +      * 1x Beltpack https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_ew_dx_sk_r1_9.htm €469
 +      * 1x Headset https://www.thomann.de/intl/sennheiser_me3_ii.htm €145
 +      * Total €4820
 +      * 1HE
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 +Sennheiser (NL) recommends EW-DX for our use case, mainly because of the large number of available channels within the various bands. Analogue was *highly* discouraged for the same reason. I (Bix) couldn't get a *firm* recommendation for frequency band from them, but in NL bands R1-9 (520-607.8MHz) and S2-10 (614-693MHz) were sold the most, in DE Q1-9 (470.2-550 MHz).
  
 Shure: Shure:
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     * 17 simultaneous transmitters     * 17 simultaneous transmitters
     * 2x AA battery     * 2x AA battery
 +    * Comparison prices:
 +      * 1x dual receiver + 2x SM58 https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_slxd24de_sm58_g59.htm €1379 (1629)
 +      * 1x dual receiver https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_slxd4de_h56.htm €849 (1019)
 +      * 1x beltpack https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_slxd1_g59.htm €259 (309)
 +      * 1x headset SM31 https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_sm31_fh.htm €155 (195)
 +      * 1x splitter https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_ua844swb_lce.htm €699 (879)
 +      * Total €3851 (October 2023)
   * ULX-D   * ULX-D
     * single-, dual and quad-channel receivers available     * single-, dual and quad-channel receivers available
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     * 17-22 simultaneous transmitters     * 17-22 simultaneous transmitters
     * 2x AA battery     * 2x AA battery
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 +
  
 ==== Audio Mixers ==== ==== Audio Mixers ====
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